FIREARMS FACTS - UPDATE

STATUS OF FIREARMS “VERIFIER NETWORK”

Updated: May 30, 2003

RCMP RESPONSE TO ACCESS TO INFORMATION ACT REQUEST

FILE: 03ATIP-18117 dated May 30, 2003

BREITKREUZ ATI REQUEST – Dated April 29, 2003

“Reference is being made to the RCMP’s response to ATIP2002-44709 dated January 23, 2003 and complaints we are receiving from firearms owners across Canada who are unable to contact verifiers from lists provided by the Canadian Firearms Registry and complaints about verifiers from those same lists who refuse to verify firearms when requested. 

Please provide copies of reports showing the number of “active” Volunteer Verifiers in each province and territory.  For the purposes of this request an “active” volunteer verifier would be an individual who has agreed to verify firearms for the general public (as opposed to verifying only for his personal use or business) and has verified firearms in the last year.”

RCMP RESPONSE Dated: May 30, 2003

TOTAL NUMBER OF ACTIVE PUBLIC VERIFIERS – As of May 5, 2003

Province                                    Number 

Newfoundland                               336

Nova Scotia                                     92

Prince Edward Island                    87

New Brunswick                            342

Quebec                                          700

Ontario                                         463

Manitoba                                      182

Saskatchewan                              216

Alberta                                         226

British Columbia                        387

Yukon                                              3

Nunavut/Northwest Territories    22

 

TOTAL                                   3056

RCMP RESPONSE TO ACCESS TO INFORMATION ACT REQUEST

FILE: ATIP2002-44709 dated January 23, 2003

BREITKREUZ ATI REQUEST – Dated November 5, 2002

“Please provide copies of records and reports that show: (1) The total number of firearms in the Canadian Firearms Registry (CFR) that have been “verified”; (2) The total number of firearms in the CFR that can be uniquely identified based solely on the description of the firearm provided by the firearm owner, and (3) The current status of the “Verifier Network” and the verification program.”

RCMP RESPONSE Dated: January 23, 2003

1)      Total number of firearms in the CFR that have been verified.  We can confirm 1,081,589 firearms have been verified.

2)       Total number of firearms in the CFR that can be uniquely identified based solely on the description of the firearm provided by the firearm owner, 4,220,176.”

3)      Current status of the Verifier Network and the verification program – To be done by Paul Timmins: The Verifier Network currently maintains a National Coordinator, and two Provincial Coordinators on each in Quebec and Ontario and 5,122 Volunteer Verifiers across Canada that continue to support the registration program by assisting the public and businesses with verification the of [sic] firearms.  The two Provincial Coordinator positions will be terminated on December 31, 2002.  All jurisdictions with the exception of Quebec and Ontario are assisting with training and maintenance of the network.  The administration, policies and procedures of the verifiers network are the responsibility of the Canadian Firearms Registry.

Briefing Note dated February 20, 2002

Project Update: STATUS OF THE VERIFIER’S NETWORK

http://www.cssa-cila.org/garryb/verifiersnetworkstatusreport20020201.pdf

HAS THE “VERIFIER NETWORK” BEEN ABANDONED?

For the last year and a half, Garry Breitkreuz’s office has been receiving complaints from Volunteer Verifiers that they are no longer receiving any support for their activities and are unable to contact anybody in charge of the Network through the Canadian Firearms Program or the RCMP.

Here are two typical complaints.

SASKATCHEWAN – January 27, 2003: I volunteered to be a verifier back quite some time ago. In the beginning, everything seemed to be in order. I received 'formal' training, information handouts, regular 'periodical' mailings, and even updated versions of the FRT discs.  I verified a few guns- mostly things that people found to be - not worthy of keeping- or at least registering at that time! Things got quiet- very quiet.  I received a call from the fellow who established the network here (Ron Read), and trained me, informing me that his job had in fact expired and that all issues in regards would be handled from a district office and a district supervisor in Edmonton.  Well... I have sent many- and I mean MANY e-mails to the verifiers network, the R.C.M.P. and other in attempts to find out what was going on with the verifying process- since the new- paper- registrations quite requiring the verifying process.  I raised concerns that the workload on volunteers was potentially impossible.  It did not make much sense to introduce that process, then to overlook it until a later date- in which ever gun in the registry would ultimately have to be handled yet a second time and in effect- re-registering the information.  I have never received so much as a single reply. I asked some pretty simple questions like; does the network still exist??  if so, who’s running the show???  Am I still a verifier???  Will I still be called upon????  I can't get a single answer to even one of my questions!!!!  I have people calling me on a regular basis for information in regards to the registry. At one time, I was kept informed, and was able to tell the public what was going on. Somewhere along the line, communication has completely failed and I am left standing in the dark with every other gun owner in the land. However, even though they have managed to exclude me from the 'loop', they have not been so kind as to lose my phone number, as I still get many phone calls asking me for information- & I don't have a clue what to tell people anymore!!   NICE hey! how considerate!  sure makes me want to help out!!!!!  

 

ALBERTA – January 28, 2003: I took the course with 5 others and within three years, the co-ordinator was let go.  I have had no contact from the so called "verifiers network" since the co-ordinator wrote and said he had been fired. The verifier's review flyer was maybe three issues and quit coming a couple of years ago.  I have told them on several occasions, including when I signed up, that I had no interest in public verifying but have had several tell me that they were given my name.  How's that for a privacy issue?  One of the guys I took the course with was called up and chewed out because of all the complaints, namely he refused to verify unless they paid him and he never had a computer fast enough anyway. Maybe if they called me for a change, I could get my name dropped too but for now I have to spend my phone time trying to get more forms.  The program was poorly written and for what little it contained, an old pentium I 486 at 66hz took almost three hours just to load the program.  The laptops that they trained us on would be locked into a search for about three hours if you accidentally tried to search for something without enough blanks filled in.  There were warnings not to load this program onto a police or customs computer as this apparently crashed the CPIC for as much as ten hours at a time.  I guess its programming mistook the FaRT disk for a query on every firearm that they could find out about at the time.

 

ONTARIO – January 31, 2003 - Recently I had struck a deal to sell an old Winchester Model 94 rifle to a dealer in another province. When I called the CFC the clerk told me that the rifle had to be verified before sale.  I asked where the nearest verifier was.  There were none in St. Catharines, Welland or Niagara Falls.  The closest one she could find listed was in Port Stanley, over 100 km away.  When I pressed the issue she became very evasive.  To my inquiry about whether she had run into this before she said she had many times. I asked how it was resolved and she said the seller had to find a verifier.  When I asked her how a gun could be verified if there were no verifers her answer was "It has to be verified".  When I asked if there was a way to resolve the problem she said "Call your MP".

 

ARTICLE FROM “THE ADVANCE” – www.simcoe.com

 

Dealer takes aim at more gun fees” by Jason Ballantyne: The Advance  Jan. 30, 2003

Carl Banting, owner of the Wolf's Den Sporting Supplies in Utopia, 10 kilometres west of Barrie, said there is a little-known component of the federal government's program that will make the initial costs look like a drop in the bucket - the verification stage of registering weapons.  "When Canadians - whether they agree with gun registration or not - see what verification is going to cost them, they will be up in arms," Banting said.  "People should call their MPs about this issue. It's not just going to affect gun owners - it's going to affect anybody who pays tax," Banting said.

 

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